tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371436.post111983596764513803..comments2023-08-11T06:11:22.868-07:00Comments on Poling Place: PostmodernismSteve Polinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06095291939072131815noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371436.post-1119949806314345202005-06-28T02:10:00.000-07:002005-06-28T02:10:00.000-07:00"Once you prove Reason (capitalized) doesn't suffi..."Once you prove Reason (capitalized) doesn't suffice to obtain Truth (also capitalized), it's a short step to say that there is no Truth."<BR/><BR/>Sure. And once you walk up to the edge of a cliff, it's a short step to the bottom. But you've stepped beyond the boundary of what you know in the process.<BR/><BR/>Godel's Theorem is itself a Truth. Even those who claim there is no Truth are asserting that as a form of Truth (though a flawed form). I know you know this already, but it bears repeating: their basic premise is flawed. Every argument they use against the existence of Truth is itself a claim of Truth; but their claims are demonstrably false. Godel never proved there is no Truth; he proved that a system of axioms and rules can be used to make statements that cannot be proved true or false through use of those axioms and rules. But that falls short of what they might claim in two ways:<BR/><BR/>1. It ignores that that same set of axioms and rules can be used to make plenty of statements that ARE provably true or provably false, using only the axioms and rules as tools.<BR/><BR/>2. It ignores the simplest solution, a solution on which Godel's theorem is mute: a given statement might be demonstrably true or false if you step OUTSIDE the axioms and rules. (I imagine that, as an Evangelical, you can see some good theological parallels here.)<BR/><BR/><BR/>"That's probably why I never got a Satisfactory Answer when I asked what Postmodernism is. There's no Postmodernist authority who can give an answer that is true."<BR/><BR/>It's way too late at night, so my brain's drawing odd connections. It just struck me how this lack of an authority makes Postmodernism a lot like Islam, where there's no real hierarchy, and one is an Imam when other people accept one as an Imam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com